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By Joe Miller at 10:11AM

Student loans: A smart investment?

With public attention newly fixated on the debt burden of American college graduates, the contribution of the federal government to that debt should also be analyzed. Rather than asking Washington to simply forgive their student loans, disgruntled protesters should be questioning the logic of the entire college financing system.

We often hear that without the federal government’s financing, college would just not be affordable to most Americans. But is it affordable now?

The average student loan debt for graduating seniors is $23,186 (excluding PLUS loans to parents). How can we claim that something is affordable if it cannot be obtained without taking on tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt?

When we say that something is affordable, we usually mean that we can acquire it while living within (or temporarily slightly outside) our means. Under what standard can a purchase be justified as affordable, if the price for the average consumer is more than $20,000 of high-interest debt (roughly half of the average annual family income)? Only the government would try to convince us that this is not only a wise investment, but a necessary one.


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By Benjamin Levine at 9:02AM

The Decision: Is college worth it?

During the summer I work as a camp counselor, specifically with K-1st graders.  As I was meeting the family of one my young campers, the dad asked me where I attended college.  I told him Drake University and he then looked at his children and said, "See, we're always thinking about college.  It's so important."  I'm sure he will reiterate that sentiment throughout their youth.  But I wanted to lean over and tell them, "Eh...not really."

Is it worth the debt?

Understandably so, this father was trying to improve his daughters' lives.  It was undoubtedly a genuine effort on his part and I don't blame him whatsoever.  For many parents, college is key.  When they were young a degree actually meant something because not everyone could go to college.  But college is not what it used to be.  Today, almost anybody can attend because of the massive amount of student loans that are nearly guaranteed (Sound familiar?  Housing bubble, anyone?).  Many would say this is a positive thing.  However, those loans need to be paid back eventually and the problem is that there is a high percentage of them that won't be.  In addition, we now treat college as synonymous with learning.  That isn't the case, either.  Simply because you have a degree doesn't mean you are suddenly more intelligent.

So, financially college should be looking rather unattractive for many students.  Recently, Moody's released an analysis of student borrowing and said this of the situation in American education:

Unless students limit their debt burdens, choose fields of study that are in demand, and successfully complete their degrees on time, they will find themselves in worse financial positions and unable to earn the projected income that justified taking out their loans in the first place. [emphasis added]

Basically, students should make a cost-benefit analysis on college.  Does it make sense to take a loan out that will leave an unsurmountable debt once you are done?  If that isn't the case -- if you can survive college without a massive amount of debt, that is -- then it probably is worth it (but, still, not always).  However, with societal pressures to attend college mixed with countless options for loans -- including "help" from the government -- people are going to college that won't be able to pay off their debt.  We're seeing a bubble form in higher education and it is a serious problem.  But it also means parents might not want to beat the idea of attending college into their childrens' heads.  It simply is not what it used to be.

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By T.J. Brown at 4:00PM

NIA's new documentary on the student loan bubble

The National Inflation Association (NIA) is making a documentary on the education bubble in higher education and student loan debt:

In the weeks ahead, NIA is going to begin searching for people who deserve to be featured in our documentary. If you are a college student, a recent college graduate, or a current or ex-college professor with an extremely shocking, interesting, and important story that the whole world needs to know about in what will be the most viewed college documentary in world history, please send an email to collegebubble@inflation.us. We would also love to hear from any NIA member who has any ideas of topics that we should cover in this new documentary. Please send all ideas and suggestions to collegebubble@inflation.us.

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By Bonnie Kristian at 3:15PM

Startup Fever

As the economy continues to suck, more and more college students are turning to entrepreneurship to provide extra income and offset mounting tuition debt.  Max Raskin in Bloomberg Businessweek reports:

Inspired by Mark Zuckerberg, who founded Facebook as a sophomore at Harvard University, in Cambridge, Mass., and stymied by the shortage of jobs in the recession, college students are launching businesses  before they graduate. They're entering industries that previously required large investments, thanks to websites that offer help with manufacturing, inventory management, and accounting, says Dane Stangler, a project manager with the Kauffman Foundation, a Kansas City (Mo.) nonprofit organization that promotes entrepreneurship....

"If you start a company tomorrow, you can be global your first day," Stangler says. "You can have international suppliers, you can have international customers. Just compared with a decade ago, it's unbelievable how fast barriers to entry have fallen to starting a business from your dorm room."

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By Alexander Habighorst at 6:14PM

Student Debt, Jim Rogers, and 'The Freeman'

Recently, I cam across a video of legendary investor Jim Rogers.  In it he talks about bailouts, commodities and among other things student debt.

 The whole thing is really worth considering as a student, especially an American one. Recently, in The Freeman, George Leef tackles the issue here.

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By Bonnie Kristian at 5:30PM

Young People Increasingly Aware of Economic Problems

Anecdotal evidence -- which certainly seems accurate on a broader scale from all I've seen/read/heard from others -- indicates that young people are increasingly aware of the serious problems with the economy and the recession's effects on their futures.  For instance, Mish Shedlock shares a story from one of his blog readers about this economic fear:

Our daughters are 15 and 17. Most of their friends are very concerned about their parents' financial situations and tell me their parents have too much debt. Whether their parents know it or not, these kids know exactly what is going on and they are scared.

And the fear isn't without cause, especially for those young people who are college-bound:

Both parents and students are wondering what went wrong as noted in Subprime Goes to College; Students Buried in Debt; Who is to Blame....

Attitudes towards education and education costs have certainly started to change with some starting to question the value of an education and what they are willing to pay, even as the Obama administration tries to keep the education bubble alive by throwing more money at it.


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By Bonnie Kristian at 8:56AM

Graduates: Do something worthwhile (and deal with that debt).

Students fresh out of college, six-figures deep in debt, face decades of debt slavery....Government meddling enabled this mess, and the best cure ...is to shut off all student aid programs, offer more online programs at low cost, fire needless administrators, and get rid of bloated pension plans for teachers....

[But the] president wants to throw still more money at the problem. This will do nothing but increase the profits at questionable schools, jack up the pay of administrators, and make more student debt zombies.

Mish Shedlock's latest coverage of the student debt crisis is disturbing at best, and the government-promoted indebtedness of college students and graduates seems to show no sign of stopping.  Shedlock points out the irony that Obama's plans to expand incentives for students to take out loans will only further damage the finances of the generation which played a key role in getting him into the White House.

That's a good topic for fall activism on campus (Ahem! YAL chapters), but raising awareness about -- and even changing -- the policies which promote these foolish borrowing and lending habits won't do much for those already $50,000 in the hole.


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By Bonnie Kristian at 8:19AM

Dear University Alumni Office

Other YAL bloggers and I have posted repeatedly on the way government intervention in the student loans/aid market has driven up the cost of college.  See, for instance, Peter Schiff on "How Government Programs Drive up College Tuitions," or Mish Shedlock on how Obama's student loans proposals will just lure students into greater unsustainable debt.

So this selection from the Best of Craigslist seemed appropriate, amusing, and economically on target [warning: *ed out foul language]:

Dear University Alumni Office,

I'm sorry to hear that the university's $750 million endowment has fallen in value to $500 million because of the recession and because your bank died. I'm also sorry to hear that you're dealing with declining enrollment due to the fact that middle-class families are no longer willing or able to bet their homes on a $45,000-a-year higher education for their children. I really am.

So, what I want to know is, why are you wasting money on glossy fundraising brochures full of meaningless synonyms for the word "Excellence"? And, why are you sending them to ME? Yes, I know that I got a master's degree at your fine institution, but that master's degree hasn't done jack sh*t for me since I got it! I have been unemployed for the past TWO YEARS and I am now a professional resume-submitter, sending out dozens of resumes a month to employers, and the degree I received in your hallowed halls is at the TOP OF IT and it doesn't do a f*cking thing.


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By Alex Kharam at 2:04PM

Is Obama's new student loans bill good for students?

Short answer is no. Let's analyze why.

The argument for the bill seems simple enough, right?

The Administration essentially wants to cut companies out of the game and run the system itself. Democrats claim the move will save $87 billion over 10 years, which can be used for a laundry list of education priorities, including increasing the maximum amount of Pell Grants, expanding Perkins Loans and investing in community colleges and other programs
But consider what increasing Pell Grants actually does.  In a free market, colleges would only be able to set their prices so high before demand decreased because people would not be able to afford tuition.  But when goverment starts giving out handouts for college, schools can jack up prices by the same amount.  This results in perpetually rising tuition no matter the state of the economy -- and remember, not everyone gets a government handout, but they still have to pay the school they attend.

But don't take my word for it.

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By Bonnie Kristian at 3:59PM

Obama to Lure More Students into Incredible Debt Loads

I've referenced Mish Shedlock before (see here and here) when discussing college tuition hikes and the problems with the student loan system.  Now, I'm doing it again, because he has a timely new post on the president's disastrous plans to expand the Pell Grant system and lure even more college students into ridiculous amounts of unnecessary debt.  Shedlock explains:

If president Obama gets his way, still more money, up to $50 billion, will be thrown at the failed Pell Grant system. Pell Grants are based on a means test and the funding comes with no strings attached. The money does not have to be repaid. That alone should tell you the program is rife with fraud. And it is.

He quotes a New York Times article, which explains, “If these programs keep growing, you’re going to wind up with more and more students who are graduating and can’t find meaningful employment...They can’t generate income needed to pay back their loans, and they’re going to end up in financial distress.”

In short, further federal funding of these grants seems like a good thing in that it helps more students go to college -- but it's driving up the price of school for everyone and leaving students with debt loads they can't realistically repay and without viable job options.  Shedlock's right when he concludes, "Rather than throwing hard earned taxpayer dollars at programs that invite fraud and make debt zombies out of students, it's time to kill the program entirely."