Questions for Dambisa Moyo -- The Anti-Bono

Jeff Frazee's picture
By Jeff Frazee at 5:43PM

Interview with the African, Dambisa Moyo, requesting the end of all foreign aid to her country within the next 5 years. From the New York Times:

Q: You argue in your book that Western aid to Africa has not only perpetuated poverty but also worsened it, and you are perhaps the first African to request in book form that all development aid be halted within five years.
A: Think about it this way — China has 1.3 billion people, only 300 million of whom live like us, if you will, with Western living standards. There are a billion Chinese who are living in substandard conditions. Do you know anybody who feels sorry for China? Nobody.
Q: Maybe that’s because they have so much money that we here in the U.S. are begging the Chinese for loans.
A: Forty years ago, China was poorer than many African countries. Yes, they have money today, but where did that money come from? They built that, they worked very hard to create a situation where they are not dependent on aid.
Q: What do you think has held back Africans?
A: I believe it’s largely aid. You get the corruption — historically, leaders have stolen the money without penalty — and you get the dependency, which kills entrepreneurship. You also disenfranchise African citizens, because the government is beholden to foreign donors and not accountable to its people.

Read the rest.

Posted in:
This is excellent. I'm going to be visiting the ONE campaign headquarters (pro-Bono...ha, lame, I know) in DC over Spring Break, among other nonprofits, and I'll bring up these points. What's better, I'm going with a African international student. I'm planning on doing some interviews with whoever I can find so we'll see what they say. Hopefully I'll have the final product written up for my campus newspaper by March when you guys have the new site up and running so everyone can check it out...
's picture
Looks like her book, Dead Aid, is coming out on March 17. Man, I can't wait...think she's a possible candidate for the podcast?
's picture
I'm not sure if it was from Ms. Moyo, but I've heard this same argument before. Makes a lot of sense. One thing I'd like to know is Ms. Moyo's take on missionary versus government aid. Is the former any less likely to perpetuate these problems in Africa?
's picture
Get her on there Drew. One of my good friends is third generation ex-pat living in Kenya. He always harked on the practical fallacies of foreign aid in Africa every chance he had. And just about everybody I can think of from Africa has said similar things. I even met a "Lost Boy of Sudan" who was very anti-aid. As he should well have been, seeing as the aid efforts of the 1980s paid for the guns and bullets that destroyed his family.
's picture
Another big problem with some of the African countries is the horrible government they've got in place. No property rights, attempts to be 'self sustaining' instead of letting free trade and competition play their part. Trying to stop capitalism from taking a foot hold will only relegate the citizenry to poverty. Here's an amazing documentary by the Libertarian Johan Norberg: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5633239795464137680 He goes through and explains why certain Asian countries are seeing amazing growth while certain other African countries are remaining stagnant. He also touches on aid, subsidies, and tariffs.
's picture
Her book sounds like it's going to be very interesting. I hate how a lot of people misinterpret wanting to end foreign aid as not wanting to be humanitarian, which is certainly not the case. If you are interested in providing a hand-up instead of a hand-out, I suggest you check out www.microplace.com Your investments here go toward loans for people who are trying to work their way out of poverty by starting businesses. The returns aren't very big, but the repayment periods can be pretty short and the repayment rates are extremely high. This organization echoes what Moyo said about the Chinese- they worked hard and built their way out of poverty, and that is what most people in situations like that want to do instead of being a charity case.
's picture
"because the government is beholden to foreign donors and not accountable to its people." Sounds like America with all our borrowing from China and elsewhere.
's picture
I would like to see this entire concept of 'globalization' killed, but first exposed for what it is. We have no business in trying to make other countries like what we have created. What we, in the US (or our gov/corp) has done is make us the enemy of the world--planet on all levels more likely. There are few benefiting from Technology--as in real benefits like personal growth, experiences of the individual, freeing up time to live YOUR life, etc. Technology is literally killing us... making us weak in thought and body; which allows parasites from all angles to jump in and make us sickly people. Technology in many forms has turned the page from being useful in promoting 'goodness' and advances, into a stranglehold on the planet for the corporate governors and corrupt governments, including the US, if you haven't figured it out. Africa is a sovereign continent and all its countries would be just fine if it hadn't been for colonialism and empiricism from certain groups using manipulation and exploitation on them. Liberty should start by ridding the corruption in our own gov en masse and realizing that this illusion of 'for the people' is NOT that in any manner. Funny how History, real history of the US is somehow hidden or lost--oh wait, perhaps that is because the industrialists and eugenicists actually run the 'school' system. Good luck with your endeavors, but keep the mainstream news and reports out of your thinking, unless, of course, you don't mind living someone else's idea of what your life should be... BTW: How many Billions of dollars are taken from Africa's Gold/Diamond mines? And, how much is given back? JACK: WE and our 'allies' have created most situations, negative situations, around the world... but make no mistake, some are benefiting, like those in the Carlyle group for one, on most negative aspects; they are conceived and planned, as history clearly shows.
's picture
Don't get globalisation and globalism mixed up. Globalization is a great thing. Free trade, open markets. Anti-subsidy, anti-tariff. Exactly what Ron Paul would support. Competition is what makes the market so great and efficient. Opening up the market to more people will only make things better. Globalism ala international government is quite different though, something I disagree with. I don't believe that the US government should force anything on any other country, but I do certainly believe that economic liberalization greatly helps living standards and that those governments that are trying to stop it would do well to to let capitalism run its course.
's picture

This was a really great interview. I never thought about first-world involvement being a hinderance in some circumstances. Do you think the media is helping or hurting Africa in general? It seems that only horror stories get publicity, and very little!

Sara Thomas, Chief of Sales
Alert One Life Alerts

's picture

Very interesting questions and anwers. I find I learn so much from Q&A. Thank you so much. indoor rower

's picture

Post new comment

The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.