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Liberty vs. the collectivist mindset

Zachary Kurtz
Dec 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM
This is something I've been thinking about for a while, inspired of course by FA Hayek's Road to Serfdom. A liberal friend told me, in a discussion about liberty and freedom, that the type of liberty she is most interesting in is preserving women's rights... understandable given her gender.  However, the typical justification of the progressive liberal (increasing the role of government to improve "social equality") is backwards to the very ideals that they are trying to promote. My counterargument is that any type of racism, sexism or other biases which lingers on through the generations is most probability institutional in origin.  From the Jim Crow laws, Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews, anti-Gay legislation... you name the civil rights abuse, and it all stems from a history of institutionalized, government-supported bigotry, usually to trick a disenfranchised, frustrated populace into giving up their freedoms, and handing power to an elite class, which blames a scapegoat under the guise of national unity and patriotism. The parallels between Nazi Germany and social progressivism are uncanny, at risk of invoking Godwin's law.  I'm in no way saying that Hitler's crimes are on the same scale as Obama's ill informed 'social justice’, but the type of mob-mentality responses both men receive is eerily similar.  Hitler took advantage of financial uncertainty during a depression and tremendous negative external political pressures to rise to power, giving the people a chance to vent their frustrations against certain groups of people (Jews, Gypsies, etc) who were blamed on economic problems.  He raised the profile of the nationalist, collectivist mindset to remove individual doubts about the moral correctness of bigotry and racism.  The ultimate goal was to create Aryan race to remove individuality and social stratification for the smooth operation of a totalitarian state.  The Germans gave up economic, political and social freedoms for security at the expense of individuality. Obama is taking advantage of financial uncertainty during a recession and negative external political pressures to rise to power, giving the people a chance to vent their frustrations against certain groups of people (business owners and 'the rich') who are blamed on economic problems.  He is raising the profile of the nationalist, collectivist mindset to remove individual doubts about the moral correctness of bigotry against people willing to take risks to make a profit (though, admittedly they sometimes act immorally in doing so). The ultimate goal is to create 'social justice’ and ‘equality' to remove individuality and social stratification for the smooth operation of a socialist/liberal progressive state.  Americans are giving up economic, political and social freedoms for security at the expense of individuality. Obama's election, which many are calling "historic" (because a black man was elected in a country where only 40 years ago, African Americans were getting lynched) is not true social progress because of the ideas Obama represents.  That is, the loss of individual freedoms by touting the illusory idea that there can be such a thing as economic equality guaranteed by the government. Hitler gained power by promising that racial unity would create a social utopia, from which all would benefit.  The social progressives do the same thing by appealing to those who think they're suffering from economic class warfare. What these people don't realize is that preserving freedoms, even if it means tearing down government safety nets, is the most appropriate response to preserve freedoms for all groups.  Economic equality can't be given by the government; it has to come from self sacrifice.  Social rights, which should be protected by the government, should not be confused with perceived economic injustice. In the end, individual action and interactions works better to preserve freedoms than anything the government can do.  Just think about the power that economic globilization has had in erasing generations of prejudices and racism (between Japan and China, for example).  The economic wealth generated by increasing freedoms (of trade, in this case) serves to make everyone richer, no matter their cultural background. The liberal progressives can blame 'greedy capitalists' all they want for perceived inequalities, but it’s these same risk takers and entrepreneurs which provide the vehicle to improve the quality of life for all people. Unlike the institutionalized, collectivist mindset supported by the progressives, it does not discriminate but only seeks to improve the human condition. Ironically, the very cultures that the feminist progressives idolize, such as the nature-loving Native Americans, did not need to institutionalize equality for woman.  This is because interactions between individuals was enough to preserve the freedoms for all.  These days the feminists are seeking a large central government to preserve social quality, when it is these very same governments, historically, that institutionalized racism and sexism in support the elitist agenda.  History has shown that large institutions are incompatible with the idea of freedom.  Why is it, then, that social progressive have been so easily duped? Governments have at their disposal the quickest mechanisms to enact changes.  However, lasting, real change cannot be legislated (sorry to inform you, Mr. Obama).  The government cannot control the hearts and minds of the people.  All it can do, to best protect human rights and economic freedom, is to let individuals interact without unduly harming each other.  People will decide for themselves that bigotry is incompatible with growth and success.  Economic disparity between social classes can be fixed by preserving free markets, much better than the government taking away economic freedoms to justify some false possibility of economic equality. As FA Hayek feared, totalitarianism and social 'progressivism' are the same forces which erode the freedoms of the individual.  The collectivist mindset cannot possibly preserve freedoms.  All it can do is provide the illusion of social or economic security, while putting more power in the hands of an elite class.  This is contrary to the stated goals of liberals, yet they are unwittingly playing right into it.  They need to learn that the government promise of economic equality is a false one and that the institutionalized guarantee of freedom is not freedom at all.
I don't want to admit this because I can't stand him, but Jonah "Every 10 years or so the U.S. needs to throw some crappy little country against a wall just show we mean business" Goldberg of the National Review came out with a book, "Liberal Fascism", on this subject. The book does devolve into an exercise in guilt by association, but it does provide an interesting history of the progressive movement, its parallels with both Nazism and Fascism, and their common intellectual roots. I have wondered, though, how Goldberg sleeps at night considering his description of "liberal fascism" would also fit with his neoconservative leanings. Of course neoconservatism is actually progressivism in a more hawkish package. It is an interesting parallel though. And I agree with your statement about not equating policies with the crimes Hitler committed. People need to look at what the policies actually were when looking at fascist governments and, more importantly, what they can lead to even when offered by someone with the best of intentions. The word fascism is now applied to anything considered politically bad and not an actually intellectual movement and form of government.
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Thanks for your response... I posted this article elsewhere and got yelled at for comparing Hitler's crimes with African Americans wanting to escape the ghettos. But that completely misses my point. What the totalitarians and social progressives have in common is the desire for the government redistribute some resource, whether its money or physical characteristics. It's the mindset of blame and excepting some government to come up with a magic fix. In practice, government policies tend to make things that much worse... I keep making this point: how can we trust institutions which, until a couple of years ago, enforced racism to now enforce 'equality'?
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Your arguments basically come down to this: 1. People who hate bigots are bigots! 2. Liberals wear shoes! Nazis wear shoes! Therefore they are similar! 3. The Civil Rights Act wasn't necessary. 4. Obama's election is not historic because lol what ever happened to black people to make them so upset anyhow am I right???// You are so lucky, as a white male, to never have to ever think about racial or gender issues -- because they don't affect you. You don't have to care about equality, because yours has never been, and will never will be affected. Your idea of "liberty" is far different than that of any oppressed person's. You are guaranteed equal pay for equal work. You will never be turned down for a job, or while waiting for a cab, based on skin tone. You don't even need to lift another finger for liberty, Zach -- you were given it at birth. Also, any comparison of anything modern to Hitler or the Holocaust that is not genocide or totalitarianism immediately discredits the argument, and turns it from something potentially valid and sound to a moot point. Period. It's just ridiculous, in every sense of the term. You should read up about your white privilege and male privilege, and thank god for how blessed you are. You're allowed to think this way about economics because everything has been handed to you based on your socioeconomic lot in life, your race, and your gender. Maybe because your spirit hasn't been crushed by fighting against racism and sexism, you actually believe that the free market isn't full of greedy intolerant assholes who ought to be kept in line. Why should you have to feel that way? After all, you're in the white boys' club! The natural elite! You've probably never had to really fight for anything, and probably never will. If you actually knew about the extent of de facto and de jure racism and socioeconomic discrimination in our country, or how African-Americans were forced to live in ghettos, you wouldn't write such naive nonsense like this about racial groups and how you think oppression could be solved. Clearly, if what you said about free-market economics leading to equality were the answer, racism would have come to a grinding halt in the 1950s during the post-WWII boom. Heads up: it didn't. The playing field is not equal for all peoples in America, and laissez-faire economics won't do much to fix the potholes. It's people's movements and necessary legislative measures that will. And then maybe economics will help pull up the people. But we can't all be expected to do well in the race if some of us, like yourself, are given Nikes, and others are barefoot from the start.
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This is absolute, specially when your concern is about liberty and freedom.

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